Intuition vs Discipline/Self Control

[jerrymp]

I have been doing some thinking on this.

 

How are we supposed to know when to break discipline in order to follow our subconscious intuition?

 

George has taught us to listen to our intuition, but we also need discipline.

 

So, as it would seem we must learn when to follow our intuition and when to not.

 

This is obviously tricky because how are we supposed to know which choice is right and which is wrong?

 

Is there a way or do we just follow our intuition and see what happens afterwards?

 

For example, pizza randomly popped in my mind at 10:30PM for no particular reason.

 

I could ignore it or I could act on it. 

 

I plan on acting on it for now, because my gut is telling me to.

 

But, this is one of those weird cases that I can see both being acceptable.

 

When to follow your intuition vs knowing when to have self-discipline that is the question.

[Subliminal Shinobi]

I've been struggling with this as well. Hope george can throw some light on this. 

[Light]

I'll list my viewpoint here as I put a lot of work into Intuition earlier this year. 

 

The largest problem with intuition is, there's no system. You can't device a system out of a "knowing", so to speak. I would invest in the Stock Market, but I would always use intuition as the last weapon and not the first one. The system or model or indicators I would see were far more reliable than Intuition.

 

On the other hand, I vividly remember playing a basketball game not too long ago, and out of nowhere, I knew going to this one spot to shoot it would be "just right". Last shot of the game, high pressure, and swish, I nailed it. Notice that I didn't typically shoot from that spot before, so it's not a habit. How did I know?

 

So this is the strength of intuition, and its weakness as well. It operates as an invisible knowing inside your head, and this knowing is more of an X factor on your side rather than the system itself. So with the basketball analogy, I would build my basketball game around good reliable moves, and every once in a while listen to that voice in my head, rather than rolling with intuition all the time. My fundamentals, the way I play, etc. is the system. The way that something extra happens (the epic flashy pass, the WOAH game winning play, etc. ) in the flow is intuition. 

[Spencer001]

My inuition has helped me in the past as well on somes things, but didn't on others when I really needed it. I think one of the big problems with using intuition is that we tend to second guess ourselves, and not go with our first feeling on a matter. This leads to it not working and that leads to doubt in future events where you need your intution.

 

This is just my personal view on ith though.

[admin]

Intuition is a feeling that results in the TOTAL amount of data hitting your senses.

 

For most people, intuition is very weak, and VERY EASY to misunderstand. It's also highly susceptible to hindsight bias. You remember the intuition AFTER you made a decision, as if you felt it before, when you really didn't.

 

Accurately interpreting intuition is a skill. The more you listen to your intuition, and see what happens, the more you'll "calibrate it."

 

The things that WORK WELL and consistently that come from following your intuition can be fed back into your discipline program.

 

AND you can make it a point to "follow your intuition" at least once day, much like you'd practice eye contact or starting conversations with strangers.

 

Ideally, following your intuition will work WITH your daily discipline, not against it.

 

You might consider listing all your daily activities in order of importance.

 

As you practice listening to your intuition, it will get stronger and stronger, but only as you act upon it, and ACCEPT all results as valid.

 

Then if you are in the midst of a daily discipline activity, and you feel an intuition, you can make a judgement whether or not the intuition supersedes the discipline, or vice-versa.

 

Until that point, you might create an hour a day to ONLY follow your intuition. Follow it as closely as you can, take notes afterwards and write down what you learned.

 

You'll find the stronger your goals are, the more you program into your brain, the more your intuitions will lead you to activities and experiences that will get you closer quicker.

 

When you are TOTALLY CONGRUENT, and you are one hundred percent committed to ALL YOUR GOALS, AND you fully trust your intuition, they will naturally work together (discipline and intuition) without effort.

 

Just remember, the conscious brain can only play checkers, while the subconscious (your intuition) is not only playing chess, but is always looking MANY moves ahead.

 

So an intuition may not make sense to your checkers playing brain, because you're only able to EVER LOOK consciously a move or two ahead.

 

Which is why TRUST is crucial as well as FOLLOW THROUGH.

 

An intuition may lead you somewhere only to fail, where the lesson of the failure is what your intuition was really pushing you.

 

BOTTOM LINE

 

Solid goals that are MEASURABLE and daily journaling of WHAT YOU DID, why you did it, and what happened will help considerably.

 

This DISCIPLINE of journaling will help to UNDERSTAND the results of your intuition.

[Spencer001]

Intuition is a feeling that results in the TOTAL amount of data hitting your senses.

 

For most people, intuition is very weak, and VERY EASY to misunderstand. It's also highly susceptible to hindsight bias. You remember the intuition AFTER you made a decision, as if you felt it before, when you really didn't.

 

Accurately interpreting intuition is a skill. The more you listen to your intuition, and see what happens, the more you'll "calibrate it."

 

The things that WORK WELL and consistently that come from following your intuition can be fed back into your discipline program.

 

AND you can make it a point to "follow your intuition" at least once day, much like you'd practice eye contact or starting conversations with strangers.

 

Ideally, following your intuition will work WITH your daily discipline, not against it.

 

You might consider listing all your daily activities in order of importance.

 

As you practice listening to your intuition, it will get stronger and stronger, but only as you act upon it, and ACCEPT all results as valid.

 

Then if you are in the midst of a daily discipline activity, and you feel an intuition, you can make a judgement whether or not the intuition supersedes the discipline, or vice-versa.

 

Until that point, you might create an hour a day to ONLY follow your intuition. Follow it as closely as you can, take notes afterwards and write down what you learned.

 

You'll find the stronger your goals are, the more you program into your brain, the more your intuitions will lead you to activities and experiences that will get you closer quicker.

 

When you are TOTALLY CONGRUENT, and you are one hundred percent committed to ALL YOUR GOALS, AND you fully trust your intuition, they will naturally work together (discipline and intuition) without effort.

 

Just remember, the conscious brain can only play checkers, while the subconscious (your intuition) is not only playing chess, but is always looking MANY moves ahead.

 

So an intuition may not make sense to your checkers playing brain, because you're only able to EVER LOOK consciously a move or two ahead.

 

Which is why TRUST is crucial as well as FOLLOW THROUGH.

 

An intuition may lead you somewhere only to fail, where the lesson of the failure is what your intuition was really pushing you.

 

BOTTOM LINE

 

Solid goals that are MEASURABLE and daily journaling of WHAT YOU DID, why you did it, and what happened will help considerably.

 

This DISCIPLINE of journaling will help to UNDERSTAND the results of your intuition.

 

Food for thought george. thanks.

[jerrymp]

Intuition is a feeling that results in the TOTAL amount of data hitting your senses.

 

For most people, intuition is very weak, and VERY EASY to misunderstand. It's also highly susceptible to hindsight bias. You remember the intuition AFTER you made a decision, as if you felt it before, when you really didn't.

 

Accurately interpreting intuition is a skill. The more you listen to your intuition, and see what happens, the more you'll "calibrate it."

 

The things that WORK WELL and consistently that come from following your intuition can be fed back into your discipline program.

 

AND you can make it a point to "follow your intuition" at least once day, much like you'd practice eye contact or starting conversations with strangers.

 

Ideally, following your intuition will work WITH your daily discipline, not against it.

 

You might consider listing all your daily activities in order of importance.

 

As you practice listening to your intuition, it will get stronger and stronger, but only as you act upon it, and ACCEPT all results as valid.

 

Then if you are in the midst of a daily discipline activity, and you feel an intuition, you can make a judgement whether or not the intuition supersedes the discipline, or vice-versa.

 

Until that point, you might create an hour a day to ONLY follow your intuition. Follow it as closely as you can, take notes afterwards and write down what you learned.

 

You'll find the stronger your goals are, the more you program into your brain, the more your intuitions will lead you to activities and experiences that will get you closer quicker.

 

When you are TOTALLY CONGRUENT, and you are one hundred percent committed to ALL YOUR GOALS, AND you fully trust your intuition, they will naturally work together (discipline and intuition) without effort.

 

Just remember, the conscious brain can only play checkers, while the subconscious (your intuition) is not only playing chess, but is always looking MANY moves ahead.

 

So an intuition may not make sense to your checkers playing brain, because you're only able to EVER LOOK consciously a move or two ahead.

 

Which is why TRUST is crucial as well as FOLLOW THROUGH.

 

An intuition may lead you somewhere only to fail, where the lesson of the failure is what your intuition was really pushing you.

 

BOTTOM LINE

 

Solid goals that are MEASURABLE and daily journaling of WHAT YOU DID, why you did it, and what happened will help considerably.

 

This DISCIPLINE of journaling will help to UNDERSTAND the results of your intuition.

This greatly clarifies things.

The most ideal case based on what you said is we learn to utilize both.

But, not just to utilize both, but also when to utilize both.

Because the timing for these things is always in flux it's best that we learn how to adapt in the moment.

Makes sense.

[Light]

From what I've read even after trained extremely well, it's said to be right about 75% of the time, so I wouldn't beat up myself if you were off the mark every now and then. 

 

Edit: Also, sometimes, what you're counting as intuition is merely logical action. For example, if you're not meeting enough women, you decide to join a dance club, etc. 

[admin]

From what I've read even after trained extremely well, it's said to be right about 75% of the time, so I wouldn't beat up myself if you were off the mark every now and then. 

 

Edit: Also, sometimes, what you're counting as intuition is merely logical action. For example, if you're not meeting enough women, you decide to join a dance club, etc. 

 

It HAS TO BE WRONG some of the time.

 

Humans are programmed to LEARN BEST through failure. "Negative" feedback is REQUIRED.

 

AND every situation you enter into will be unknown, (can't step in the same river twice, etc) so at best it's a calculated RISK.

 

If you're NEVER WRONG you're playing it WAY too safe and are leaving a lot of money on the table (or whatever else you're going after).

[Subliminal Shinobi]

George is a wise wise man.